Re: N8 software

[yoda <yo...@r2d2.org>]

Douglas

I really wish that the N8 directory would remain somewhat stable.  The
structure  keeps changing and files moving around.  I like to have the
files on my system so I can work with them but this constant creating
directories and moving files around is nuts.  The structure is
entirely different than it was a week ago.  I would like to see new
files stay in the main directory to see recent changes instead of
having to search through all the directories.  If there was an easy
way to download the whole N8 directory what you are doing might by OK
but since that is not easy information is going to get lost as it
becomes buried in directories.

I personally don't think all the restructuring and moving files around
is making things clearer - it is having the opposite effect when you
are trying to figure out what has changed.

On Jul 24, 7:24 am, Douglas Goodall <douglas...@mac.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> I politely disagree. The wiki has a tendency to make things drop out of sight
> if there are more than about 20 items on a page. The point of all the sub-dirs
> is that I consider it easier to click  into a subdirectory than to scroll to the bottom
> of the page and hit the next button (perhaps several times).
>
> Beyond that we have schematics, board layouts, parts lists, BOMs,
> various builder's software contributions, pictures of boards…
>
> Do you really want to go back to having everything in one directory?
>
> If it bothers you that I have made the original board a subfolder of the current one,
> that can be fixed. It is also easy enough to have a folder for common software
> that runs on either board.
>
> When you just throw everything into one big bag, it makes it VERY difficult for
> new builders and others to make any sense of a jumble of files. Some folders
> I have sorted out had 85 files, and it took quite a lot of scrolling and paging to
> locate what you where looking for.
>
> I noticed you just created some more files prefixed with the "hc". Tell me, does
> the BIOS20 run on both boards, or is it specific to just one of them?
>
> Another aspect of file naming is to avoid struggling with the wiki about duplicate
> names anywhere in the workspace. Some of the renaming I have done is to keep
> names of files associated with the folder they are in. It also helps you k now where
> those files live if you run across one out of context.
>
> I guess we need some more discussion about this.
>
> Douglas
>
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:09 PM, John Coffman wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I think there are too many sub-directories.  1 for each board rev. should be enough.
>
> > --John
>
> > On 07/23/2011 10:37 PM, Douglas Goodall wrote:
>
> >> Sorry, That was me, I moved them.
>
> >> I think it might me cool to leave those files in the old folder, and
> >> copies of them renamed in the new folder.
>
> >> That way the only confusion will be about whether they are the same,
> >> and not whether they can be used with a certain board.
>
> >> I prefer that new files contain the N8-2511 tag and hope others agree.
>
> >> Ideally they would be called, "N8-2511-BIOS17.TXT" and "N8-2511-BIOS17.ZP"
> >> in the new folder.
>
> >> I apologize if I seem like a nag, but I am trying really hard to make things clear
> >> about version affiliations.
>
> >> Please consider this.  :-)
>
> >> Douglas
>
> >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 4:05 PM, lynchaj wrote:
>
> >>> Thanks John!  I was wondering where your BIOS went!
>
> >>> Here is the video of the original board booting.  Nice!
>
> >>>http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/40171918/HC_video_output_MVI_1413...
>
> >>> Thanks and have a nice day!
>
> >>> Andrew Lynch
>
> >>> On Jul 23, 6:32 pm, John Coffman <john...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Some N8 software is applicable to BOTH versions of the N8 Home Computer board.  The current organization of the folders on the Wiki would lead one to believe that they are mutually exclusive.
> >>>> Since they are applicable to both boards, I have moved:
> >>>> HC_BIOS.TXT
> >>>> HCBIOS17.ZIP
> >>>> to the highest level common directory.
> >>>> Newly uploaded is HCBIOS20.ZIP, a bit more polished than -17, and probably useful primarily as a test of:
> >>>>     Serial line setup
> >>>>     DS1302 nvram, clock, and charger
> >>>>     Video output
> >>>>     Status LED
> >>>>     CPU identification
> >>>>     CPU frequency selection (requires video interrupt)
> >>>> I'll start now to implement FDC (with DMA) and PPIDE with timeout.
> >>>> Copy the code to wherever it is useful.
> >>>> --John
> >>> --
> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "N8VEM" group.
> >>> To post to this group, send email to n8...@googlegroups.com.
> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to n8vem+un...@googlegroups.com.
> >>> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/n8vem?hl=en.
>
> > --
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "N8VEM" group.
> > To post to this group, send email to n8...@googlegroups.com.
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to n8vem+un...@googlegroups.com.
> > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/n8vem?hl=en.