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Re: [N8VEM: 10436] SBC-188



With P.O.S.T. working, there is a lot that is running.  I take it the floppy does not spin.  Motor-On is the simplest of floppy operations, even if the DMA transfer fails.  If you are getting a floppy timeout (3-5 seconds), then the 18Hz timer is working.

Floppy may not work if you can't save to NVRAM.  Time and date are not critical; but the floppy configuration is critical; likewise the PPIDE configuration.  The floppy configuration may be defaulting to Zero, which means no floppy present.  Hence no boot.  Hence no motor-on.

I'd say the problem is in the NVRAM area.  How is it backed up?  Local battery, super-cap, or backplane VBAT?  Check the jumpers.  Dead DS1302?

--John




On 07/10/2011 07:21 AM, Dan Werner wrote:

I am using the 1.0.005, POST runs correctly, reports the correct clock rate and the correct SRAM size, it just seems to not want to write to NVRAM and there is no activity from the floppy, it also reports no boot disk.   I was hoping that it would be something simple like an incompatible chip, but, I guess I have a hardware problem to debug!

 

Thanks!

 

Dan

 

From: n8...@googlegroups.com [mailto:n8...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Coffman
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:21 AM
To: n8...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [N8VEM: 10433] SBC-188

 

Dan,

The 80188 and 80C188 are slightly different chips.  The 80C188XL, I am pretty sure is compatible with the AMD N80C188-25 chip that Andrew distributes.  I have also tested the Intel N80C188, no suffix.  It is a lower clock rate.  The design speed of the board was 16Mhz (32Mhz oscillator); without the 4MEM board, the lone board has been run by both Sergey and me at 25Mhz (50Mhz oscillator).

The board revisions are printed on the SBC-188 CPU board:

        00.4     --  the earliest -- needs several updates (Update-2010-10-25.txt)
        1.0.005 -- the version 1.0 board -- has all the revisions

The 00.4 is printed near pins A32,B32,C32 of the ECB connector.
The "rev 1.0.005" is printed in the middle of the board.

The 00.4 board can be updated to 1.0.005 by installing all of the h/w mods, including adding a chip to the FDC logic. 

Jumper settings may also affect proper operation of the board.  J8 (1-2) is the critical one.  The schematic has a table of jumper settings for the various size and type of ROM chips.

BIOS037 does a P.O.S.T. (power on self test) of memory when it starts.  It should correctly report the size of the SRAM chip you are using.  It should also report the CPU clock rate accurately.

--John

 

On 07/09/2011 09:45 PM, Dan Werner wrote:

Now that the pace at work is slowing down to a "normal" level, I am
trying to get caught up with the current state of all of the
boards.    While I am focusing on 6802 FLEX, I am currently waiting on
parts, so I decided to get my SBC-188 working.    It does appear to be
working somewhat, but it has some sort of IO problem (no floppy
activity of any kind, and it does not seem to be storing the NVRAM
correctly).
 
So I thought I would start by making sure that the 80c188XL-20 chip
that I am using is compatible, and to ask which chip others are
using?   I am using BIOS37 and the V1 board.
 
Thanks!
 
Dan Werner
 

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