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Re: Gryphon 68030 [message #801 is a reply to message #799] Sun, 12 June 2016 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Andrew B wrote on Sun, 12 June 2016 20:05
I think it's a good practice to keep 1 type of programmable device per board, so I'd go for 2 MAX 7000S or ATF15xx-type CPLDs replacing the PALs and the remaining glue logic chips. (The Atmel parts tend to be cheaper but the software they provide is not as nice, but the 15xx and 7xxx parts are generally compatible see https://www.retrobrewcomputers.org/doku.php?id=builderpages: abingham:cpld-compatibilityWink.

That way a builder only needs 1 type of programmer.

CPLDs in general seem more reliable because you can buy 1 $20-$60 USB programmer and program them on the board with a JTAG header. GALs have several vendors that may or may not work with a given programmer - the Lattice parts and Atmel parts use different programming algorithms for instance and programmer compatibility with the lower-cost programmers and the Atmel parts can be spotty. Also only the Atmel parts are currently in-production which are the harder to program of the two.




Well a builder is going to need an EEPROM programmer as well as a JTAG programmer for the board. Most EEPROM programmers can do GALs as well. So you are going to have 2 programmers once you go down the CPLD path. The Altera USB JTAG is darn cheap (less than 15 dollars) and their software seems to be more robust that say Xilinx so I vote using Altera. The UtSource prices are reasonable and the 6ns versions would probably be ideal as we push the speed. I picked up a bunch as they are 5 dollars each in quantity 10 and they should be able to replace 5 GALs so they are cheaper in the end.

Dave
 
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