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Re: Gryphon 68030 [message #768 is a reply to message #767]

Fri, 10 June 2016 10:46

yoda
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Registered: October 2015
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

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Hi Andrew,

I know we have talked privately about the board but might as well get some feed back in the open. I have to ask what is the final end game here? As it stands, the 1.1 version still has some issues in stability - maybe the updates will make it better as there were quite a few soft wires on the board. I fear the 1.1 board may be of limited use/interest. The small memory support is a problem and ROM mapped at address 0 will cause some problems (that can be over come). The video was never able to be checked because the foot print did not match the chip (rotated 90 degrees if I recall) I tried make a wiring jig for it and could not get it to communicate so there may be more issues there. The network interface has never been checked either. Both of these chips are fairly dense pin SMT devices which will not appeal to the casual hobbyist to solder. There are some very good design innovations in the board that should be carried forward but I am not sure making a replica of the original design is where we would want to start from. I think a subset would be better (a core with an I/O board add on). As you know I spent a lot of time with Paul on the bring up of this board and we got pretty far but I don't want to speak for Paul but I think we had agreed that 1.1 would be somewhat different that 1.0. I am pretty sure that the schematics would be a whole lot different and would have to be re-done (unless you have isolated things to separate sheets - not sure how much rework would occur even in that mode). Of course you know I am very interested in this so I guess a schematic is a good place to start from but I am just saying I don't think the final schematic is going to look anything like the 1.1 schematic. I just don't want to cause a lot of extra work. Again it is all about what is the end game. I would like to see a board that can run multi-user linux in the end so have a display, keyboard, and sound is not a high requirement for me initially which simplifies the board and board area significantly. Also I would like to use an Altera CPLD or two, to consolidate the GALs which would simplify the board layout and the patch work that happened in the other GALs as changes were made.

Dave

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		Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 08 June 2016 13:57
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 08 June 2016 13:58
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: computerdoc on Thu, 09 June 2016 01:43
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 10 June 2016 03:16
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: computerdoc on Fri, 10 June 2016 08:56
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 10 June 2016 09:16
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Fri, 10 June 2016 10:46
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 10 June 2016 11:43
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Fri, 10 June 2016 11:49
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 10 June 2016 12:10
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Fri, 10 June 2016 12:24
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: jcoffman on Fri, 10 June 2016 15:06
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: will on Sat, 11 June 2016 03:29
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sat, 11 June 2016 10:43
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 June 2016 04:15
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 06:36
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 June 2016 07:03
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 June 2016 07:13
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 08:07
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 10:26
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 13 June 2016 04:58
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Tue, 14 June 2016 03:43
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: will on Sun, 12 June 2016 16:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 June 2016 17:16
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 18:06
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 17:50
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: will on Sun, 12 June 2016 07:27
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 10:19
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Sun, 12 June 2016 10:48
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 June 2016 17:18
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 June 2016 17:40
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 17:55
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Sun, 12 June 2016 18:05
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 18:12
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Sun, 12 June 2016 18:30
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 June 2016 20:07
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 13 June 2016 03:22
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Mon, 13 June 2016 08:04
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 13 June 2016 09:17
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Mon, 13 June 2016 09:39
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Mon, 13 June 2016 09:59
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Mon, 13 June 2016 10:02
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Tue, 14 June 2016 03:18
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Tue, 14 June 2016 06:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 15 June 2016 17:36
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 16 June 2016 03:29
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 16 June 2016 03:34
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Thu, 16 June 2016 06:41
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 16 June 2016 08:29
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 18 June 2016 08:38
		Calling on logic equation gurus By: yoda on Fri, 24 June 2016 08:50
		Re: Calling on logic equation gurus By: Andrew B on Fri, 24 June 2016 09:46
		Re: Calling on logic equation gurus By: yoda on Fri, 24 June 2016 11:14
		All: Please review verilog code By: yoda on Fri, 24 June 2016 17:41
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: lynchaj on Sun, 26 June 2016 13:40
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: lynchaj on Sun, 26 June 2016 13:44
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: Andrew B on Mon, 27 June 2016 09:51
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: lynchaj on Mon, 27 June 2016 11:36
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: yoda on Mon, 27 June 2016 12:25
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: lynchaj on Tue, 28 June 2016 03:21
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: jcoffman on Tue, 28 June 2016 03:29
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: lynchaj on Tue, 28 June 2016 03:55
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: yoda on Sun, 26 June 2016 17:02
		Re: All: Please review verilog code By: lynchaj on Mon, 27 June 2016 03:42
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Tue, 28 June 2016 15:51
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Tue, 28 June 2016 17:07
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 29 June 2016 03:32
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: jcoffman on Wed, 29 June 2016 08:01
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 29 June 2016 09:15
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 29 June 2016 16:37
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 08 July 2016 08:18
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 09 July 2016 06:57
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 18 July 2016 17:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 23 July 2016 11:56
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: davetypeguy on Mon, 25 July 2016 10:16
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Mon, 25 July 2016 13:39
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: davetypeguy on Mon, 25 July 2016 14:46
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Tue, 26 July 2016 13:50
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 03 February 2017 05:05
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 04 February 2017 10:23
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Sat, 04 February 2017 11:28
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: computerdoc on Fri, 10 February 2017 02:17
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: will on Fri, 10 February 2017 03:56
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 February 2017 07:19
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: will on Sat, 11 February 2017 13:20
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Sat, 11 February 2017 13:31
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 February 2017 13:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sat, 11 February 2017 14:05
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: will on Sat, 11 February 2017 14:44
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: computerdoc on Fri, 10 February 2017 02:25
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 February 2017 07:06
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: computerdoc on Sat, 11 February 2017 19:00
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 February 2017 08:14
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: davetypeguy on Sun, 12 February 2017 00:22
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 12 February 2017 10:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 February 2017 11:11
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Garth on Mon, 13 February 2017 02:07
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Fri, 17 February 2017 14:47
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: denis2342 on Tue, 28 February 2017 06:27
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Tue, 28 February 2017 06:48
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: denis2342 on Tue, 28 February 2017 07:12
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Tue, 28 February 2017 07:40
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: will on Tue, 28 February 2017 14:55
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: denis2342 on Thu, 02 March 2017 20:32
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: ewout on Fri, 03 March 2017 02:54
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 03 March 2017 03:51
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 03 March 2017 03:54
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 06 March 2017 03:00
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: ewout on Thu, 09 March 2017 00:58
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 09 March 2017 07:05
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 09 March 2017 07:07
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Thu, 09 March 2017 07:16
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: ewout on Thu, 09 March 2017 07:33
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 09 March 2017 07:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Thu, 09 March 2017 11:50
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 09 March 2017 11:59
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Thu, 09 March 2017 12:32
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 09 March 2017 15:25
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Thu, 09 March 2017 16:01
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 09 March 2017 16:26
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Thu, 09 March 2017 17:13
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 10 March 2017 02:56
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Fri, 10 March 2017 07:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 10 March 2017 08:31
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 March 2017 05:56
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 March 2017 06:13
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sat, 11 March 2017 12:30
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sat, 11 March 2017 12:43
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sat, 11 March 2017 14:41
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 March 2017 05:21
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 March 2017 09:20
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 March 2017 10:28
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sun, 12 March 2017 14:14
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 12 March 2017 14:34
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sun, 12 March 2017 17:40
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 13 March 2017 02:55
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 13 March 2017 05:43
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 15 March 2017 02:54
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: davetypeguy on Wed, 15 March 2017 09:06
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 March 2017 13:00
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 11 March 2017 13:12
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sat, 11 March 2017 13:23
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sat, 08 April 2017 19:59
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: rhkoolstar on Sat, 08 April 2017 23:27
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: plasmo on Sun, 09 April 2017 05:32
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: tobster on Wed, 15 March 2017 13:08
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Wed, 15 March 2017 14:02
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 16 March 2017 13:52
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Tue, 21 March 2017 09:55
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: norwestrzh on Tue, 21 March 2017 10:22
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Tue, 21 March 2017 10:46
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 23 March 2017 05:44
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 25 March 2017 06:30
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 25 March 2017 08:03
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sat, 25 March 2017 16:19
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: jcoffman on Sat, 25 March 2017 18:07
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sat, 25 March 2017 21:05
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Sun, 26 March 2017 08:32
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: tobster on Sun, 26 March 2017 02:25
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sun, 26 March 2017 09:18
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sun, 26 March 2017 09:47
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Mon, 27 March 2017 09:18
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 27 March 2017 09:30
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Thu, 30 March 2017 10:13
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 30 March 2017 10:46
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Thu, 30 March 2017 11:56
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: Andrew B on Thu, 30 March 2017 13:50
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Thu, 30 March 2017 14:03
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Thu, 30 March 2017 14:37
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: tingo on Mon, 03 April 2017 13:44
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		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Tue, 04 April 2017 04:02
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Tue, 04 April 2017 07:50
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 07 April 2017 04:31
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: rhkoolstar on Sat, 08 April 2017 11:30
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Sat, 08 April 2017 11:46
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Sat, 08 April 2017 12:48
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: plasmo on Sun, 09 April 2017 20:22
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: rhkoolstar on Sun, 09 April 2017 23:16
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 10 April 2017 03:00
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Mon, 10 April 2017 03:18
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: plasmo on Mon, 10 April 2017 12:38
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: commodorejohn on Mon, 17 April 2017 15:14
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Tue, 18 April 2017 04:21
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Tue, 18 April 2017 07:04
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		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Tue, 18 April 2017 09:53
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: commodorejohn on Tue, 18 April 2017 09:59
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Tue, 18 April 2017 11:35
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Tue, 18 April 2017 16:48
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		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Wed, 19 April 2017 02:55
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: yoda on Wed, 19 April 2017 14:15
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		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Thu, 20 April 2017 11:15
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		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: mikemac on Thu, 20 April 2017 12:33
		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Thu, 20 April 2017 15:58
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		Re: Gryphon 68030 By: lynchaj on Fri, 21 April 2017 02:54
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