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Re: ECB-DMA [message #6794 is a reply to message #6793]

Sun, 17 November 2019 14:12

wsm
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Since we've been discussing Z80s, DMA, CF and ATA, there is an ambiguity that I think needs to be clarified.

Many of the CF interfaces that I've seen for 8-bit processors utilize the CF-unique SET FEATURES command to enable 8-bit transfers. This feature is ONLY useable in PIO mode and was retired for ATA compliant devices such as hard disks in ATA-3 (1997). CF cards in 8-bit mode can work with an 8-bit DMA controller BUT the CF card actually needs to be configured for PIO mode, not DMA mode. Compliant ATA-3+ devices and all CF / ATA devices configured for DMA mode always use 16-bit data transfers.

The first ATA CPLD I built was for an 8-bit system and fully supported PIO and DMA modes (not Ultra) on CF cards and hard disks. This required extra logic for high byte versus low byte but did increase throughput since it only required one ATA access per two memory accesses. On my NYOZ system with it's 8-bit Z180 I chose to use an 8/16-bit memory organization in order to further increase ATA throughput and due to DMA "fly-by" each ATA DMA access also includes the main memory access.

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		Re: ECB-DMA By: wsm on Sun, 17 November 2019 10:06
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		Re: ECB-DMA By: jcoffman on Sun, 17 November 2019 21:28
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		Re: ECB-DMA By: mikesmith on Thu, 09 January 2020 18:36
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